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Hi, welcome back.
So we've been talking about a crisis of capitalism, a crisis in the West in the
1970s, a thrashing about, looking for new ideas to get out of the malaise.
What you see is some New Thinking in the West.
The democratic socialist alternative is faltering, as other revolutionary ideas
have developed, really, in a way, a renaissance of liberalism.
I mean, liberalism in the terms we've been using it all through this
course, not the way in which
it's conventionally used in American political life.
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For instance, economic liberalism, the notion that
instead of larger government control over the
economy, instead the answers might be to
retreat from a government role in the economy.
No single person was more influential as an advocate of economic liberalism
in the 1970s than that very gentle, avuncular fellow, Milton Friedman.
Now, for you to just have to get a sense of what Freidman was
like and the kind of impact he had on people in the 1970s,
here's a film clip of Friedman appearing on
public television in New York City in 1975.
I'll just give you about the first two and a half minutes of this.
You'll be able to get a sense both of
the argument, and of the man. Let's take a look.
>> I'm Richard Hefner, your host on The Open Mind.
My guest today has been labeled this country's foremost conservative economist.
Milton Friedman of the University of Chicago, of Newsweek
magazine, and of wherever it is that persons of
brilliance and concern gather to discuss the fate of
individual liberty in the midst of ever expanding governmental responsibilities.
Professor Friedman, I wonder if I might begin the program by
saying that you're a kind and a gentle man, yet you're
identified by many with those who see, to those who make
that identification to want us not to do kind and gentle things.
Perhaps not provide for the poor, perhaps not provide for the aged, and I wonder how
you'd reconcile these phenomena and whether you feel
that it's fair to characterize you as a
conservative economist.
>> Well, let me start at the end of that first.
I never characterize myself as a conservative economist.
As I understand the English language, conservative
means conserving, keeping things as they are.
I don't want to keep things as they are.
The true conservatives today are the people
who are in favor of ever bigger government.
The people who call themselves liberals today, the New Dealers,
they are the true conservatives because they want to
keep going on the same path we're going on.
I would like to dismantle that.
I call myself a liberal in the true sense of liberal,
in the sense in which it means of and pertaining to freedom.
Now, that brings me to your second point. One of the great mistakes is to
judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.
We all know a famous road that is paved with good intentions.
The people who go around talking about their soft heart, I,
I share their I admire them for the softness of their heart.
But unfortunately, it very often extends to their head as well, because the fact
is, that the programs that are labeled as being for the poor, for the needy,
almost always have effects exactly the opposite of those
which their well-intentioned sponsors intend them to have.
>> Friedman, in fact, was quite consciously borrowing from an
older intellectual tradition, especially a group of people in Central
Europe, like this Austrian economist Friedrich Hayek and the book
that he had written that was so influential in the 1940s.
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and also the shadow of the USSR, the fact that
with America out of Vietnam, with America on the defensive,
it begins to be the Soviet Union that, at least
for a little while, is looking more like the world's bully.
In a way then,
this revolution that I'm describing in the 1970s and
early �80s is a kind of revolution of small business
folk, of shopkeepers, and no one seemed to exemplify their
aspirations more than the grocer's daughter, Margaret Thatcher in England.
So let's look at some of the key political turns in this period.
I especially want to focus attention on Europe,
because that was such a key battleground area
in the struggle between East and West.
In Italy and Spain, the communists come close
to gaining power, but they do not succeed.
They are turned back at the ballot box.
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On the other hand, Thatcher wins election in
1979, offering the British public a clear alternative.
Here's Time magazine noting the victory of Britain's fighting lady.
Thatcher's victory
is followed at the end of 1980, with the triumph
of Ronald Reagan ascending to the American presidency in 1980.
In 1981, Francois Mitterrand takes power in France.
And then one might think that there's a different direction being followed here,
because as I said in my last presentation, Mitterrand is a French socialist.
In 1981, he forms a ruling coalition in partnership
with the communist party, but in 1982 Mitterrand decides to
align with German partners, even with the British to some degree.
He's firmly anticommunist on political matters,
on economic matters he's decided to
recoil from nationalizing the big banks,
from pursuing the democratic socialist policies.
He decides France just can't afford it.
Instead it needs to join a European consensus that will
reboot capitalism, not try to turn Europe toward democratic socialism.
Mitterrand's conversion in 1982 then becomes a big part of this emerging trend.
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Some Western European leaders looked at these missiles and thought,
this essentially disables our flexible response strategy, where we would start
a nuclear war if the Soviets started a conventional one,
because they could hold all our places hostage with their missiles.
Therefore we need the Americans to bring missiles to Europe that,
from bases in Western Europe, can strike the Soviet Union to keep
the United States's security from being
decoupled from the security of Western Europe.
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That sounds a little bit, complicated.
It is.
But the bottom line is West German leaders like Helmut Schmidt are asking the
Americans to deploy missiles to Germany. Schmidt makes that pitch.
It comes at a moment in which he already has a lot of tensions with Jimmy Carter
over a lot of other issues.
At the end of 1979, NATO decides to approve this deployment.
It'll hold out the possibility of arms control with the Soviets,
but it's going to go ahead with the deployment, which
is to be completed by the end of 1983.
This particular military issue just became an enormous
symbol of confrontation over the political future of Europe.
By the way, here is a photograph, there's the SS-20 Soviet missile
on the left, the planned American Pershing II missile on the right.
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What they want are agreements against arms.
You just see the firm red bar on top of missiles, that's what the SPD
says it wants to stand for. At this point in Germany, in the early
1980s, politics is becoming polarized, issues of economic
liberalism and political alignment, pro or against NATO, are blurring together.
The German liberal party abandons its coalition with the Social Democrats.
That small liberal party, instead aligns itself with the
Christian Democrats, kind of the national conservatives of German politics.
Why?
Because the liberals are increasingly alarmed, that the Social
Democrats have economic policies that will just enlarge the
size of government, which the liberals are against, and
increasingly they're worried that the Social Democrats are against NATO.
From the Social Democratic point
of view, this whole business of NATO versus Warswaw
Pact is the wrong way to think about it.
It's the superpowers against the rest of us, who might be their victims.
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The leader
of the new German government, in 1982, is Chancellor Helmut Kohl.
Kohl, in turn, has been leading an intellectual movement in
German conservatism called a sort of Tendenzwende, in which they're seizing
on the ideological differences between East and West to reassert
the salience of these differences, to the importance of aligning with NATO.
No,
they are not all alike.
The West does stand for ideals, and the East does not.
They point to issues of the suppression of unrest in
Poland, of Soviet behavior around the world to strengthen their case.
Well, anyway, that's the choice, the West German people are facing in 1982 and 1983.
Choices like this are being faced in Britain, France,
Italy, the United States. It makes 1981, �82, �83, intense years
of domestic and international crisis. Just to set the scene:
Europe is also, Central Europe, Germany, the
most heavily militarized part of the entire planet.
Hundreds of thousands of heavily armed soldiers facing each
other across the inter-German border, and there are
flash points for potential conflict all over the world.
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In 1982, the Argentine government seizes a set of islands off the
coast of Argentina called the Falkland Islands, long held by Great Britain.
Great Britain prepares a navy and an expeditionary army and sends it across the
North Atlantic and the South Atlantic to wage war to reconquer the Falkland Islands
from Argentina. That's 1982.
There's the Euromissile crisis tearing up the politics all across Western Europe.
There is intense conflict in Central America,
civil wars in El Salvador and Nicaragua,
the threat and confrontation between the United States
and Cuba and maybe even the Soviet Union.
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You see the conflict of Central America,
spotlighted here in May 1983, while Reagan proclaims
America has a vital interest, a moral
duty to assist the anti-communist resistance in Nicaragua.
And
Time is still noting problems in the Atlantic alliance.
[LAUGH] This cover may have spoken for a lot of Americans by June of 1983 and
the way they were feeling from reading all
of this -- and more turmoil over Central America.
By August of 1983, still more trouble in Central America.
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In Lebanon, in the fall of 1983, it
looks like the Marines are holding the line helping
to prop up one side in the civil war,
but the Syrians and their allies aren't done yet.
With Hezbollah, they blow up Marine barracks outside of Beirut.
More than 200 Marines are killed. As the United States asks itself
questions about whether to get out of Lebanon, the United States sends a small
force to invade the tiny Caribbean island of Grenada where a
left wing dictator, possibly aligned with Cuba, has just taken power.
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The escalating crisis in Lebanon seems to put the United States on
a road to possible war against Syria, then lead by Hafez Assad.
Yes, that's the same Assad family whose son has
been ruling Syria during the recent civil war there.
But if the United States clashes with Syria, it will face Soviet
fighter jets and Soviet anti-aircraft missiles that
are protecting Syria, another danger of conflict.
And at the end of the year, the Soviets walk out of the arms control
negotiations that were trying to manage the
disputes over the deployments of the Euromissiles.
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And there were some other things going on behind the scenes.
The Soviets were getting erroneous intelligence telling them
that a NATO exercise in the fall of
1983 might even be preparations for a possible
US or NATO attack on the Soviet Union.
As tensions, perhaps, seemed to be spiraling
out of control, there was an increasing
sense, on both sides, US and Soviet, that they needed to take a step back.
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Or this reaction, this is a movie in which,
of course, young people, Matthew Broderick and his girlfriend,
try to save the world from an accidental nuclear
war created by the war machines getting out of control.
In the 1984
election year, Ronald Reagan and his advisers want to
project an image of strength to the American people,
but they also know that the American people want
to elect someone who is interested in peace as well.
In effect, voters in Europe and in the United States are going to make some
choices in this polarized battle of ideas symbolized
by this TIME cover showing Reagan and Andropov
and their confrontation as the dominant story of the year.
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Margaret Thatcher, the same year, triumphantly wins
re-election, propelled by her victory over Argentina,
her victory over the miners, she seems to be the reassuring figure Britons want.
Kohl re-elected, Thatcher re-elected, and
at the end of 1984, Reagan is re-elected, too, winning 49 out of 50 states.
And in the Soviet Union, by contrast, Yuri Andropov dies.
He's replaced by another leader, Konstantin Chernenko,
who within a year is also dead.
So there's a sense of domestic momentum, there's also a sense
of international momentum, one side moving, the other side falling backward.
But another key element of this story is what's going on with capitalism anyway?
How was capitalism doing?
Capitalism survived. In fact, capitalism Reboots, and it's
that story that we'll be coming to next time.
See you then.
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