So we're here in La Perla Bowl. [LAUGH] We did [INAUDIBLE] I used to have my studio in old San Juan. My studio used to be a skate park too. And when we closed the skate park, people from La Perla asked us about having a ramp in La Perla, so they keep skateboarding. And we actually put in a ramp in this same spot, knowing that it was going to get all fucked up, because of the rain and the weather. And the idea of getting all the stuff that is here, because people in La Perla drop the debris from the houses in this part. So we decided to take all the debris, put it together, [LAUGH] sounds simple, and make a boat. So we started this project in 2005. We finished in 2006. It was made with the help of people from the Barrio. That's the most important thing I would say. So people from the community was involved in all the parts of the project from choosing the spot where it was going to be, to giving us material to work on it, and to showing us how to do it too, so. I learn here how to build a [INAUDIBLE] boat with the people from La Perla. >> Can you say just a few words about La Perla? [CROSSTALK] yeah, just a few, I know you have- >> So La Perla, it's probably the most famous barrio or barria in Puerto Rico. It's a tiny [FOREIGN], outside the Old San Juan walls. And it's a disadvantaged economically, and socially community too, and it's been dealing with stigma. It does have a social stigma of being the most dangerous, and awful community in Puerto Rico. While the truth of other communities that it is really well grouped. And it does have clear rules of not to steal stuff,respect the older guys or the oldest, respect the woman, and kids. Those are the four rules in La Perla, basic rules. And it's a community that receives tourism from the Puerto Rican people, none from the outside, normally all the time. And it was where I, because I came to [INAUDIBLE] which is really close to here. So for me was the place where I learned a lot of things that the university didn't give to me. So it was in La Perla where I was, people won't accept any rebel idea. They will actually question my ideas here in La Perla. For me that was really important. >> So your strongest critique were in La Perla. >> In La Perla actually yes. About society, about how to be in society, about how important it got to be or no. And it was in La Perla where they told me first, we need cops [LAUGH] in this society. No, we don't. because I was talking to you about that. Weren't working illegally. But they were saying, no, no, no, I want cops, I want cops. If my mom happen this or that. [INAUDIBLE] So I mean, not that being the most important thing. Also I another thing with the La Perla, it's included in our history. So there's books, and novels and stuff [INAUDIBLE] La Perla, and still it's super for me and Miguel we know that this community is still here. In the center of the tourism, at the side of the governor’s house, the mayor’s house [INAUDIBLE] Puerto Rico and still resisting the government to live here, because the government does want to move the community out. People here say they are not going, for me they are an example. Also aesthetically I love La Perla, that's one other of the reasons why we work here. Because I do think that in La Perla and other communities alike, there are design things that have happened here, that should be probably slowly to then works facing in our cities or in our as a society. People in La Perla doesn't want to move from La Perla [INAUDIBLE] and stay while, I want to move out of my house. I want to be living in another place. Most people that is in my social middle class, wants to move to this other side, or this other spot. While people upper line [INAUDIBLE] still want to live in their own house that they built, or their parents built, that's it. [LAUGH] >> Thank you, [FOREIGN]