And so that was what it was like in the beginning.
And Tim and I did this all on this NeXT machine here in about 1990.
So the first server was about 1990.
The first, end of 1990.
The first server in the United States came up about a year later
at Stanford because of that database that I was talking about before.
The real problem was that this development system is so much
better than anything else that porting what we had here to any other platform.
Took an order of magnitude more time.
And, for example, every time you clicked here you had another window.
Every time you clicked on a diagram you had a diagram in another window.
When you clicked on the map, you got the map in postscript,
scalable, perfectly printable, and so on and so forth.
You try to port that to another system, you go berserk.
And there is a big difference between making an editor and
something that just puts out a page and you can't do anything with that.
So, our system from 1990 was also the editor.
I mean I started, it's only after NeXT stop making hardware,
and I have to go back from a NeXT to a Macintosh, I have to learn HTML.
Right, I mean before, we produced all the documentation and stuff but
we never saw any of it.
We never saw any HTML, we never saw any URLs, right?
Because you linked by saying link this to that.
Not by typing in the URL.
There was a special window.
You could call up in which you could type the URL if you needed to, but
that wasn't the usual thing.
And this navigation prompt which say http dot, dot, dot.
I learned all that.
The hard way afterwards that you have to use that
because we've lost that system, right?